Comments on: Aaron, we love you!

By: txwikinger

txwikinger — Sat, 28 Jun 2008 22:59:14 +0000

I am with you !!!!

By: Henrique Marks

Henrique Marks — Fri, 27 Jun 2008 12:19:56 +0000

Totally disagree with many developers (first time in years).

The point is, where this thing started ?

When a user opened a bug requesting to take off a component for the Desktop that the user said was causing some annoyances (not problems, my opinion), and, in the old spirit of KDE, the user said if it was possible to turn off that button.

JUST THIS. Maybe not with these words, and this is where the problem starts.

A developer could answer. “It is not the intention of the project to take off this button, it has utterly importance, but we can try, in future releases, to make it configurable. At the moment it is not possible. So we are going to put these request in our TODO list, in a advanced options configuration dialog”

Simple request, simple answer, and it is over.

What happened next: users started a flame war, saying the button is bullshit, plasma is bullshit, give my Desktop back, etc. Nonsense. Trolls.

But some developers also started to answer, saying things like: i am closing the bug, it is not going to happen. Your suggestion is just bullshit, you cannot suggest, you are not smart, you do not understand the design, etc. This is trolling coming form plasma developers.

BOTH SIDES ARE RIGHT AND WRONG. Right at their requests, wrong the way they express these requests. I am really sorry to say this to developers, but unfortunately is true.

What happened next is just plain sad, all the flamewar created by this simple.

And all developers talking about how wrong are the users, i, as a user (also a contributor, ok, but speaking as a user) have to say: yes, the developers were wrong also, and it is a matter of inteligence to accept that, and let things pass. We must remember we are human beings, and the importance of forgive mistakes, even honest mistakes made in this case, by all people involved.

By: Riccardo Iaconelli

Riccardo Iaconelli — Fri, 27 Jun 2008 06:36:14 +0000

Me, me!
I’m with you!

By: CÃ©sar Sandrigo

CÃ©sar Sandrigo — Thu, 26 Jun 2008 15:52:55 +0000

From Argentina… We love you and support you Aaron! Keep going!

By: nixternal

nixternal — Thu, 26 Jun 2008 14:40:43 +0000

Tom Green is my hero!!!

err, I love Aaron too

I mean, who else has the snappy comebacks when we talk sass for fun?

Let Aaron chill a bit, do what he does best, and continue supporting him.

And remember, the KDE community, users and developers and even those of you who thought about it, you rock and much love from me!!!

By: loeppel

loeppel — Thu, 26 Jun 2008 14:36:54 +0000

Aaron does amazing work!
He really should keep his vision of a new Desktop! (As the whole plasma team should!)

greets,
loeppel

By: shuss

shuss — Thu, 26 Jun 2008 13:18:49 +0000

You have my keyboard
(my axe will come alltogether

Seb

By: Alexandra

Alexandra — Thu, 26 Jun 2008 12:28:18 +0000

@Thomas:
I’m with you when it comes to stating clear borders between good and bad behaviour. But I doubt a “code of conduct” will lead us anywhere as those trolls won’t care anyway.
All the others will correct themselves after a short but clear statement by us telling them to be polite (or whatever) because they don’t intend to hurt.

@Lydia:
Good points there, we should make people sign them.

By: MoRpHeUz

MoRpHeUz — Thu, 26 Jun 2008 12:23:35 +0000

Hey, I’m just getting closer to KDE dev community and for sure, I’m 100% with you, as a dev and as a user!!! Bad bad trolls… =/

By: Philip Woite

Philip Woite — Thu, 26 Jun 2008 10:47:47 +0000

Yes, I love Aaron too!